Monday, February 7, 2022

Hike #135; Upper Water Gap and Stroudsburg Loop

 Hike #135

Group shot in Delaware Water Gap PA

5/30/4

 

This trip was a major landmark for my hikes. I had recently taken outdoor leadership

training at Lake Nockamixon, PA to lead my own trips through the Appalachian Mountain

Club. The course was two days of lectures and mini group hikes intended to prepare us for

leadership challenges. After taking the course, each “leader in training” was to co-lead two

hikes with two different current leaders in the club. My first choice was obvious: Rich

Pace. Rich convinced me that for my first AMC leadership outing I should not do one of

my long hikes, which I could not totally accept. I recruited some of my friends who had

been hiking with me in the past to join and continue after a nine mile AMC hike for

another loop making it a total significant mileage.

At the parking lot in Del Water Gap PA

Starting out along Lake Lenape

Along Lake Lenape

Along Lake Lenape

Old road behind Lake Lenape

Along Lake Lenape

Group shot along the back of Lake Lenape

The group behind Lake Lenape

Table Rock, PA

The group on Table Rock

Along Mt. Minsi Fire Road

Along Mt. Minsi Fire Road

Old foundation on a side road at what used to be Lake Latini

Taking a break at Winona Cliff along the AT

View on the way up Mt. Minsi

AT on the way up Mt. MINSI

View of Dunnfield NJ from Winona Cliff

Along the AT in PA

Near the top of Mt. Minsi where the AT meets the fire road

Me with my flutophone on Mt. Minsi

My beat up old shoe

Mt. Minsi

Mt Minsi

View from Mt. Minsi

View from Mt. Minsi

View from Mt. Minsi

On Mt Minsi

Maple leaves

I decided on a Delaware Water Gap trip, as when a hike there is posted through the

AMC, it attracts a good number of people (I would in fact become annoyed in the future

with this, as the name “Delaware Water Gap” leads everyone into thinking they will be

hiking to the popular places such as Dunnfield Hollow or the AT, forgetting all of the

lesser known points). After I had chosen the route, I had Rich post the trip on the

Delaware Valley AMC hotline, a yahoo group used for more last minute trip postings

(most trips are posted through AMC Outdoors Magazine, or a newsletter called

“Footnotes”.). He recieved the e mails from interested parties and then forwarded them to

me so I could handle all of the leadership responsibilites. Henry had given me his old

computer for my 24th birthday, and it could’nt have happened at a better time, as I would

need it from now on for the hikes.

I had everyone meet at the AT parking area off Mountain Road in Delaware Water Gap

PA. Cathy of course was there to join in on my first real AMC outing. In addition, Skyler

Jermyn, Chris Jones, and Amit Bhojwani all joined to experiance what the AMC would

bring us. Skyler and Chris signed on to do the entire hike, while everyone else would cut

out at the nine miles posted through AMC. Rich was already waiting for us with the group

when I showed up.

Also joining us were four newcomers from the AMC: Barth Johnson, who works for

Warren County and is was already good friends with Rich, I had met once before on a

hike up Point Mountain. Atsuko Lin, Jeen Lee, and Barbara Bish were the other three

AMC members who joined. I remember Atsuko kept the best pace of the group, and gave

me good hope that I would fine hikers who could meet my level within the AMC.

At the beginning of AMC hikes, we stood in a circle and introduced ourselves, then I

went over the trip route and what we would be doing. This is called the “Circle talk”. I

have adopted this practice pretty well, unless we have a small group and everyone knows

each other. Already, I was looking very unlike everyone in the club. I showed up wearing

one of my Aloha shirts and a straw head I had bought in Las Vegas, and I was wearing

two different kinds of shoes, as I had worn out one left and one right from separate pairs

but felt I still had a good pair of shoes!

It was important to me to do something very different than anyone else was doing on

their Water Gap hikes, so I began by bringing the group around Lake Lenape and up

Table Rock Trail. After crossing the Table Rock, I brought everyone down to the Minsi

Fire Road, then on one of the old side roads passing by a swamp area and a pond. The

pond is marked “Lake Latini” on old maps, but is hardly a pond let alone a lake. There

was also an old foundation of some sort of house along the route. A trail led us along an

outlet out to the AT, which we followed to a lookout into the gap. This area, though not

shown on many maps any more, is called Winona Cliff. I pointed out the railroads and told

the history of them while we rested briefly here.

Rich taking pictures of bugs on top of Mt. Minsi

Hola

AT on Mt. Minsi

View near Totts Gap on the AT

View near Totts Gap

View near Totts Gap

In Totts Gap cave

Totts Gap cave

Totts Gap cave

Totts Gap Cave

Totts Gap cave

Totts Gap cave

It was great to have Rich co-leading, because I still had the opportunity to be myself, and

being myself meant sprinting up to the near top of Mt Minsi to the Minsi Fire Road from

Winona Cliff on the AT. I played the flutophone while I waited for everyone at the top.

We soon ascended to the top of Mt Minsi where we took another break. The view was

perfect; great visibility.

We continued on the AT out to Totts Gap, stopping at the gas pipeline along the way to

take in the view. Continueing down hill, we visited the cave just south of the AT. This was

another place hardly anyone in the AMC visited, and everyone seemed to enjoy it. We

soon turned back up Totts Gap Road, and followed it north heading off the ridge as I had

with Peeps on hike #109.

Totts Gap cave

On the way down the ridge at Totts Gap

Utility line at Totts Gap

Utility line at Totts Gap

Utility line at Totts Gap

Mountain Road in Del Water Gap

Old Mountain Road in Del Water Gap PA

Del Water Gap PA

Off trail view at an old house site off of Mountain Road

We continued to the old road out to the gas line, then out to the other northeast bound

road back towards the Water Gap. There were some giant puddles in this section. Barth

helped Cathy around most of them while I led the group. This time, someone, I think it

was Amit, asked what a small side path led to, and I did’nt know, so I ran out to see.

What we found was a nice off trail viewpoint on the foundation of some old house. I was

very pleased to find this place. We continued downhill as the old road became paved,

though still badly washed out.

View off trail from an old house site

Old house site off of old Mountain Road, Del Water Gap PA

When we reached the bottom, we turned right back to the parking area where we began.

Cherry Valley golf course

Stroudsburg PA

Rich, Cathy, Amit, Jeen, Atsuko, Barth, and Barbara all left at this point, and seemed

happy to have come on the hike. Skyler, Chris and I continued back in the direction we

had just come from only to soon reach a golf course. My Kittatinny Trails map showed

that there had been a road crossing the area, but it was not in sight. We stood around for a

minute until a guy came up on a cart asking what we were up to. I let him know we were

doing a hike, and he directed us to the old road, and allowed us to pass across the course.

The road was dirt, in a line of trees adjacent to the green. There were many golfers out,

and many balls were on the road. Chris or Skyler picked one up, and one of the golfers got

quite upset saying “I really hope you did’nt move that!”. We had a laugh about it later.

The road took us past a house, then off to the right into Cherry Valley. We turned left

onto the main road along the creek and walked up over Godfrey Ridge the same way

Peeps and I had taken on the last trip.

Shop Rite in Stroudsburg PA

The Good Year Blimp over Stroudsburg PA

Stroudsburg PA

Broadhead Creek in Stroudsburg PA

NYS&W right of way south of Stroudsburg

NYS&W railroad bed south of Stroudsburg

NSY&W right of way south of Stroudsburg

We stopped at a gas station to get some drinks, and while we were waiting, a couple guys

pulled up in a hot blue car. I honestly can’t remember the make and model, I think maybe

an early seventies model Mustang. The guys got out and went into the store. One guy

came out first, wearing a leather jacket and looking kind of rough, and began talking to us.

After a bit of a converstion, he asked “You guys into Bio Hazard?”. I had heard of the

band but did not know their music. We kind of nodded or said we’d heard of them. The

guy replied with “Well, they SUCK!”. He went on to tell us he was a former member of

the band for their first couple albums, but either left or was kicked out, I can’t remember

which. Either way, he was an interesting fellow and it merits inclusion in this entry!

We continued walking into the town of Stroudsburg, and stopped in the Main Street

Jukebox, a favorite record store of mine for getting rare and bootlegged Beatles

recordings. Chris was always happy to visit places like this as well; he would go into the

back and look through obscure funk and jazz records, as well as old Quincy Jones

soundtracks. He ended up buying a few records and stuffing them into his backpack.

Skyler kind of wandered a bit, paying little attention as he was listening to a Japanese

Language learning tape the entire day, sounding out new words aloud as we walked!

Next we headed out to where the NYS&W Railroad right of way was near the

McDonalds, and continued on to I believe it was the Shop Rite to get more to drink. We

pushed Chris around in a shopping cart a bit before continueing on.

After seeing the right of way, we headed back to a bridge across teh Broadhead Creek

and walked roads looking for signs of where the railroad right of way would have been.

We walked through a new developement for some time, looking at street names until we

found one which was an obvious clue: “Susquehanna”. As NYS&W stands for “New

York, Susquehanna, and Western”, and there was nothing otherwise to do with the river

of that name in Stroudsburg, I assumed it must refer to the railroad. We continued along a

few other roads as I recall out of the developement and into a small community park with

a ballfield. There was a game going on, and the parents looked at me funny as I climbed to

the bottom of a bridge over a creek on the access road. I noted that it’s stone construction

dates it back before 1900, and assumed this was originally the railroad bridge. I was

correct, for after crossing the ballfields we found ourselves on the nice, clear right of way

high above Broadhead Creek. There were some places that were badly washed out, but

none that were difficult to walk.

Broadhead Creek trestle site

Broadhead Creek

Broadhead Creek crossing

I injured my leg crossing Broadhead Creek

Broadhead Creek crossing

Broadhead Creek crossing

Crossing Broadhead Creek

After Skyler got sick from swimming the Broadhead Creek numerous times

Soon, we reached the site of where a trestle once carried the railroad over Broadhead

Creek. The river was very wide and full of rapids at this point, so we made our way up

and down the shore looking for somewhere we could wade across. I kept trying to make

my way out, but was unable. I finally gave up after taking a fall and hitting my lower leg

badly on a rock. Skyler, being a registered lifeguard, decided to try to swim the creek at

the base of one section of rapids, but above a second one. He found that it was possible to

swim it with one hand in the area, meaining he could bring his cd player and my camera

across safely. After swimming across and back, he realized he should have taken his jeans

off, as they were now soaked. He put his jeans in a bag, then swam our important stuff

across. I went next, tieing a bandanna around my hat to keep it on. It was a tough swim,

but I made it across alright. Skyler swam back across to retrieve his other stuff, and Chris

headed out holding his backpack with records on his head. He made it in alright, and

Skyler found one rock he could rest on out in the river before continueing across. On his

last time back across, Skyler was getting very tired, and Chris and I helped him out of the

water. After swimming across the river five times, Skyler needed to sit and rest. After a

few moments, he puked violently! Chris and I were just bewildered by this, but Skyler felt

better after a few moments and we were laughing about it.

We climbed up the hillside and across the active DL&W tracks, then up to the other side

of the trestle site. We began walking the right of way here, until we came across an area

full of tents with a nasty barking dog in front of us! It seemed we had walked into the

middle of this circular encampment with ropes tied all the way around it. We did not trip

any of the ropes, just stepped under them. As the dog went nuts, I yelled out “We’re just

hikers, we’re just rail enthusiasts walking the railroad right of way, just passing through!”.

Making our way up to Rt 80 at Marshalls Creek exit from the NYS&W right of way

No one came out of any tents, and we continued on. It was tough trying to figure out

which way to go. It was getting darker all the time, and there appeared to be a lower

grade below us. I was starting to think we were not on the right of way. In fact, we were

on the right of way, and followed it by following old telegraph poles that had not been

removed. Part of the right of way was obliterated by the construction of Rt 80, and we

had to climb up to the highway to the next exit in order to stay on it!

Unfortunitely, when we reached the exit, it was impossible to see where the tracks

continued as it was getting too dark. We stopped in a convenience store to get some

drinks, which we needed badly at this point. Skyler was walking in his boxer shorts, which

apparently accidently opened up to reveal his manhood to the female clerk; we still tease

him about this! The clerk was fortunitely not easily offended.

We walked along a road looking for familiar street names, and when we got to the next

intersection, we asked a guy having a picnic with his family which way to the Water Gap.

He directed us downhill along another road. We came out to an interesection after a

bridge over Marshall’s Creek, and we turned right. It was well after dark by now, and I

did not know where we were going. There was a bar ahead to our left, so I went inside to

ask for directions once again. It was a good thing I did, as we were going to head straight

where we should go left! I abandoned the idea of asking for directions to the Water Gap,

instead realizing if I could get to the active railroad tracks, I would know how to get back

to the gap. It turned out we were in the area of North Water Gap, and we followed the

road out to the former DL&W tracks. Though we did not know where, I knew at some

point on this stretch of road we crossed the former NYS&W right of way. We crossed a

bridge over Broadhead Creek, then followed the tracks south into the Delaware Water

Gap. When we reached the bridge underpass under Rt 80, we climbed up to the AT, then

headed back to where we started early in the morning! We got back to the parking area

between 10 and 10:30 pm! Quite a day to remember.

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